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Re: Connecting Remoter to computer inside home LAN from Inte

Postby stilllearning » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:28 pm

If you set up your router to forward UDP port 9 to 192.168.0.255, then all devices in your network would get it, including both the time capsule and the mbp.


Per Apple article (Mac OS X v10.6: About Wake on Demand): "Wake on Demand works by partnering with a service running on your AirPort Base Station or Time Capsule called Bonjour Sleep Proxy. When Wake on Demand is enabled, any Mac on your network running Snow Leopard will automatically register itself and its shared items with the Bonjour Sleep Proxy. When a request is made to access a shared item on a Mac running Snow Leopard, the Bonjour Sleep Proxy asks that Mac to wake and handle the request."

I interpret this to mean that all requests for access to a shared item must go to the Bonjour Sleep Proxy (BSP) service, running on Time Capsule, then, and only then, does BSP issue a Magic Packet to the MBP. A Magic Packet from a different source would have no effect.

This sounds like you need to set up your Time Capsule as the router.


I think this is correct. However, I am pretty sure that the Verizon FIOS service precludes the possibility of setting up TC as the router (see quote below taken from ActionTec support). If so, then it would appear there is no way to accomplish my objective UNLESS the ActionTec also supports Bonjour Sleep Proxy service. Not likely.

Q: "Can I Bridge the Actiontec MI424WR router that Verizon provided, when I signed up for FiOS service?
A: "The MI424WR does not have a bridging option. The desire to bridge the MI424WR is based on a misunderstanding that it is a modem as well as a router. Many consumers do not realize that with FiOS, the ONT (typically outside the home) is the device that handles changing the FiOS signal from Fiber to either Ethernet or Coax, and that the Router is just a Router, and if it was bridged or bypassed, it would be a device without a function. For most Verizon FiOS customers their service would completely stop if the MI424WR was bridged, because the Video on Demand service is dependent on it to work. If your ONT is connected to the Actiontec MI424WR router via Coax, the MI424WR is required due to the Coax connection."

My understanding of all this is average at best but I conclude that it is technically impossible to to wake up a wireless MBP remotely, over the Internet, in my particular configuration. Therefore, I am now looking at Energy Saver settings in System Preferences (e.g., Computer sleep = Never, Display sleep = 1 minute, Hard Disk sleep = when possible) as the next best alternative.

Alas, I still have not connected remotely to my awakened MPB using Remoter due to my inability to get port forwarding right on the ActionTec. Frustrating.
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Re: Connecting Remoter to computer inside home LAN from Inte

Postby raf » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:42 pm

Per Apple article (Mac OS X v10.6: About Wake on Demand): "Wake on Demand works by partnering with a service running on your AirPort Base Station or Time Capsule called Bonjour Sleep Proxy. When Wake on Demand is enabled, any Mac on your network running Snow Leopard will automatically register itself and its shared items with the Bonjour Sleep Proxy. When a request is made to access a shared item on a Mac running Snow Leopard, the Bonjour Sleep Proxy asks that Mac to wake and handle the request."

Actually, this doesn't mean the client needs to connect to the sleep proxy. This is how it works (based on my understanding from reading all the docs):
1-your mac registers itself with the proxy. then goes to sleep
2-remoter attempts to connect to your mac (using the ip address). The sleep proxy sees the request, and intercepts it (as it knows the mac is asleep and can't accept it). The sleep proxy then accepts the connection from remoter! (crazy, but hence the proxy naming) While at the same time wakes the mac up. Once the mac is awake, it hands the rest of the connection over to the mac.
This is transparent both to the mac service (beside itself having to register initially with the proxy) and to the client. Any TCP/IP client trying to reach a service (registered) in the Mac, will cause the interception and wake-up process.

Raf.

PS: I found some info on how to port forward the actiontec in google: http://www.actiontec.com/howto/h2_detai ... _id=3&id=9 http://www.actiontec.com/products/datas ... Router.pdf Not sure if this helps.
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Re: Connecting Remoter to computer inside home LAN from Inte

Postby stilllearning » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:01 pm

I think I need to crawl before I walk. I may try to connect remotely with the non-sleeping MBP wired to a port on the ActionTec. If this works, then I will move the non-sleeping MBP to a port on Time Capsule. If this works, then I will go wireless with the non-sleeping MBP. If this works, then I will repeat sequence with sleeping MBP. Something tells me that waking a wireless and sleeping MBP remotely is not possible.
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Re: Connecting Remoter to computer inside home LAN from Inte

Postby raf » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:32 am

Please let us know how your investigation turns out.

Thanks,
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